cave chiidi a side effect of evolution, we traded the safety of the trees for holes in mountains in principle not a terrible idea, save for the hazard of occasional wild predators who had the same ideas about real estate and now that you people have tracts, apartments, trailers and the horror of "california construction" (that cheap shit consisting of a frame, some chickenwire, some styrofoam slabs and some stucco which is probably fine if you live near an active fault but stupid if you live anywhere else) caves are the ideal dwelling place for erstwhile chiidi like myself trespassers will be devoured 010214 ... spades41 don't get lost. the monster may find you. and eat you. and you will die. goodbye 021116 ... straw man the cave is dark. substance not form. shadows not ideals. chains and toys to cast shadows. see plato. 031215 ... tender_square she and her father did a guided ranger tour up the mountain to a cave dwelling. her dad was able to get them in because he volunteered with the state park, otherwise the wait for reservations took months in advance. she said the rangers know more about the area than what they used to before, and it's because they talk and listen to the tribes on the land, they're taking oral histories more seriously. they don't know how long the cave people dwelled there, but they know that they were driven out of the valleys by the spaniards and then the whites, that the land was decimated. they would've found more archeological clues to that time, had a dam not been built to create the nearby river. all of that land, all of those historical clues have been under water for almost one hundred years. 230331 what's it to you? who go blather from