no_way spinnit you couldn't know what I've already said to you in my mind. or is there? maybe there doesn't need to be, right now, i'm tempted to take whatever you'll give me but i still know what i want 010604 ... there must have been a door there in the wall out 010605 ... jim_starks unless i told you, you would never know that i'm here. 020515 what's it to you? who go blather from