exercise lulie can take a life time. 020325 ... pilgrim I'll take physical labor over pumping Iron any day. Pay some gymnasium to let be break a sweat, no way. I'd rather take a job loading trucks or tossing concrete block to the mason, let them pay me instead. Besides almost all the guys I've met who talk about working out,tend to be the biggest whiners and weenies when it comes time to do any heavy lifting on the job. 020326 ... lulie plenty of natural ways to use one's muscles. 020326 what's it to you? who go blather from