twist_ties unhinged where do you even get these things anymore? i mean now that most garbage bags have the built in handles that pull it taut and shut, they don't just give them to you anymore. i remember the junk drawer in the kitchen being filled with all the extra twist ties. occasionally, i find myself needing or wanting one and thinking of where i might get some. 081206 ... cr0wl i used 1000+ to net(deer proof) the trees and shrubs of a wealthy client's garden. 081207 what's it to you? who go blather from