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unhinged he was not the worst heroin_doll ive known

at least he could give credit where
credit was due
at least he could say
i_love_ you

whispered_in_the_ear
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unhinged and the astrology doesn't help

the virgo in him has to have his way
the leo in him knows how to get it
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srealisma (who cares) A) you don't know shit about a Leo if you insist on taking your own needs-to-fit-in-to-my-social-scenario Libra word for it. sorry. Go to 5 depth psych conferences and/or astrology conferences and then respond with astrology. What you're using is the Big Shortcut.

B) It's obvious that whoever he is, you hate him. You really do. Why bother with that whole method. If it can't be helped, it can't be helped. Here's what I do, I don't know if it helps in the long run, though: I totally fire the person. I put a note on the whole thing that says: you were unaffordable. It works for me, and it doesn't get me up in arms about what an asshole THEY might have been. I get to be the asshole for my set of reasons, not theirs.

C) all the regressing and explaining and going over it again and again looks and, in my opinion, is stupid. If you can't understand something, get smarter first, then try again.

D) I truly do understand why people get in a rage about Descartes. Well, I just know I'd rather survive.

E) Get with it.

F) I don't care. You should have stopped the idiocy when you were -15.
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srealisma (who cares) A) you don't know shit about a Leo if you insist on taking your own needs-to-fit-in-to-my-social-scenario Libra word for it. sorry. Go to 5 depth psych conferences and/or astrology conferences and then respond with astrology. What you're using is the Big Shortcut.

B) It's obvious that whoever he is, you hate him. You really do. Why bother with that whole method. If it can't be helped, it can't be helped. Here's what I do, I don't know if it helps in the long run, though: I totally fire the person. I put a note on the whole thing that says: you were unaffordable. It works for me, and it doesn't get me up in arms about what an asshole THEY might have been. I get to be the asshole for my set of reasons, not theirs.

C) all the regressing and explaining and going over it again and again looks and, in my opinion, is stupid. If you can't understand something, get smarter first, then try again.

D) I truly do understand why people get in a rage about Descartes. Well, I just know I'd rather survive.

E) Get with it.

F) I don't care. You should have stopped the idiocy when you were -15.
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unhinged damn dude, what the fuck crawled up your ass?

good for you that you've been to psych and astrology conferences. and also good for you (I guess) that you can label people and write them off so easily.

sometimes people need to reflect in order to grow. some of us live in the past. fucking sue me for not being so enlightened as you.

really hopes you were just having a bad day
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unhinged and

i didn't hate him. quite the contrary. i spent much of my early 20s loving and caring for him and writing about it here

the_frank_folio


but the man broke hearts professionally. Among other things, it was a way he filled the hole in his soul created by drug_addict parents that didn't love or care for him as much as they should have. parts of him were sweet, wonderful, beautiful. like all of us, parts of him were not.

heroin makes people manipulative. ive experienced that enough to know without going to a fucking conference on it.

for example, i had driven an hour and a half to hang out with him one night and for some reason or another he pissed me the fuck off. he batted his eyelashes at me and said 'i know I can get away with it because you love me anyways' sic

and knowing what i knew of him and his life, i punched him in the arm and then gave him a hug.

save the judgements; words represent only a fraction of the reality
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srealisma actually, mostly calling you out on the bad astrology. also, don't live in the past. unless you really want to. 120111
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unhinged didn't need to be called out on anything let alone your perceptions. my astrological interpretations are not based on theoretical sugar coated new age bullshit. they are based on my real life experience. and in this particular case it was more of a personal comment to the skite that originated this blathe about the person she was blathing about than a blanket generalized theory.

there are two sides to every story, two ways to say everything. i prefer to be on the blunt side of honest. that doesn't make me bad or wrong.
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IGG ha bad astrology.

don't hide behind critical evaluations of stars and planets, especially not to critique someone who is engaging in blatherapy.

planets don't mean shit if you can't connect to people.
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srealisma No. You were mixing up Leo and Virgo.

LEO IS STRENGTH. Virgo is figuring shit out.

I will give you, though, the fact that a Leo-y fixed star has recently entered Virgo so it might seem like Virgo wants to be Leo now.

Here is my personal opinion, now. The world where these two are mixed up is not the world I was brought up in nor the world I signed up to live in. Here's why- it's definitely nobler to creatively tell me about how Virgo is strengthy than to use a strengthy Virgo to publicly out some apparently unworthy person for years on end in a vague yet extremely personal and private manner.

Raise the child the best you know how. If got to be a teenager and found out there was all kind of trash talk about him in a public and permanent place on the internet, I would be first confused and ashamed and then livid. The blue has seduced you into thinking private chat room, something like this....? Has the blue perhaps done its job by getting some good material from your lives, however at at least two others' expense?

"Terrible world" we live in where people can't pass each other a private note. Alas, I live in it too. Lord knows I know, speaking for myself, that good therapy is needed but it takes time, wherewithal money, connection, and reccomendation to even find one let alone to go through it.

I don't want to hear about this Ivet person anymore. I'm done with that bullshit. Also the other guy. I don't want to hear about him either cuz that's over.
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srealisma Leo is by definition more Leo than Virgo.

Virgo, I'm afraid, will either have to improve or get over it, somehow. Because that's what makes Virgo...... Big V Virgo.

(Which would be a great name for blather, if it were to need a new name someday. )
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a clever disguise "leave my sister alone
cuz she don't deserve this
she is a flower
and i am a flower
and we are all alone"
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unhinged fuck off. no seriously, just fuck off. there is a really easy solution to the problem that you have created here.

if you don't want to hear about it, don't click the goddamn fucking link. blather is not your fucking blog.


you can say whatever you want. i generally don't give a fuck as long as you stay off my back. the world does not revolve around you. i can and will say whatever the fuck i want. if you don't want to listen, don't. go the fuck away.

funny how i am expected to take your unsolicited advice in stride but when i say things directly after you on a page you take it personally and/or judge and evaluate my opinions and words. quit projecting your immature bullshit on to me.

are you really planning on being a therapist someday? your bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired. 'Oh hey stupid, just get over it already. Live in the now and stuff' cause that's always helpful advice to people who are obviously hurting.

and as for the astrology arguement, i think i pretty much said the same thing you did without the academic sugarcoated bullshit. but if you want to continue to argue cause you choose to interpret my words in a way that allows you to do so that's up to you. between the two of us that first posted here there is a lot of emotional pisces relective shit going on.

but like i said,
get off my fucking back and if you don't want to hear what I have to say don't fucking read it then. problem solved
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srealisma no can do. sorry honey. too late.

i'm honestly curious: how'd you get here? and why is it that you want to do the Kurt Cobain Courtney Love show, out of all the shows there are to choose from?

from my own thoughts on the issue, i guess it must be in regards to the very common issue of self-esteem. so you would definitely not tolerate any sort of negatory (Simpsons-esque) thoughts in your direction. all i ask is that you refrain from making astrology look like something that it shouldn't be. you are not the only person to do this, but I am the last person you should (that's right) do it around. You are smart and capable. You have no problems with understanding all things Libra.

Don't ruin yourself, like good-ole Courtney. that's sort of a joke. you don't have to laugh, though.

p.s. this is not your chatroom.
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unhinged get over yourself you dumb bitch. do you miss my fucking point or do you just not give a shit about anyone but yourself?

ONCE AGAIN LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU: I will say what i want. period. I'm pretty sure I have never censored or criticized your words here. if you want to transcribe psych textbooks into blather, although i think it is a waste of space and just as much of anti-artistic use of blather as chatting, go right the fuck ahead.

your instance of harassing me about this is immature at best. if you don't like the way others use blather, start a fucking blog already for christs fucking sake. there is nothing about you that makes you better, smarter, or more worthy than anyone else around here.

i bow to your textbook knowledge of astrology. your opinions on the subject are definitely more valid than mine thanks to a few conference attendances.

why don't you get in line behind everyone else ive ever disappointed or pissed off?
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srealisma It wasn't me that said I was disappointed or pissed off. Annoyed, certainly. Yes, you can assume that I've studied some more astrology. Yes, more study of the subject is unbelievably open to you at this juncture.

That is all. besides my preference for not wanting to hear about ex-boyfriends. shit-talking, if you will. I gave up a long time ago believing that I could control the outcome of blather mostly because Dallas wouldn't talk to me straight about it when I went to visit him in 2004.

Another thing I am extraordinarily against is characterizing people and blaming them for the type of eyes that they have. Therefore, I have chosen vigilante justice and flagged the hell out of this post.

I'm sorry you got caught in the crossfire, but double-the-infraction (in my mind) was including true stories of the real-life bad guy in the public forum.

Heck, I don't even think it's good to mention ANYBODY that's in our lives here. Even though I have done it, and tell you the truth, I don't know why I should have.

So we disagree and what else is new. If I were a professor and you were a graduate student I would not give you the OK to study under my tutelage. Good thing for this that I'm not and you're not. We have the best of all worlds.

Who cares, though? I guess?
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unhinged wow. ok then. your assumption/analogy that you have anything to teach me is laughable. i care because there is nothing about you that gives you the right to tell me what i can or should do or say here. i am fiercely neurotic about my first amendment rights.

if you have all these lofty and grand ideas about what should be said and what you want to hear how about you actually do something about it besides jumping in my shit like you own this little corner of the internet? how about you start your own forum where you can be a fascist liitle queen that can tell others what they are allowed to say?

i stopped using full names, and even first names around here a long damn time ago to protect myself and the others that were included in my ramblings, rantings, and ventings here. i have spared your highness a vast majority of the drama of my life in recent years.

and truthfully, you can ignore what i say (just as much as i can you). you very well fucking can. you just choose not to because you think the world around you should conform to your standards and wants.

good luck with that honey
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unhinged i agree but my patience is at an all time low right now. if some dumb bitch wants to put her two cents in where it doesn't belong, i refuse to remain silent. 120112
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srealisma the puppy dogs of the world are now satisfied. 120112
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gregory van hammenstein srealisma, you must have skipped by the blather home page too many times without reading it.

here it is, for your reference:

http://blather.newdream.net/

here's what it says, in case you're too lazy to click, or more likely, too lazy to read:

"blather is words. bunches of words, strewn about in a twisty tangly web of pontification, insight and nonsensical delight.
but really it's an experiment to see what shape this will take when left at your mercy. take a gander and let us know what you think."

you may also be familiar with the phrase : blather_is_blather.

your mention of "controlling the outcome of blather" and even attempting to become a blather_god or a blather_demigod is insulting, especially to those of us who have poured our lives and hearts and souls into this blue world. you are one of the most narcissistic skites i have ever read, and possibly solipsistic. i don't know. i don't presume to know.

go ahead and argue, but bask in your ability to do so. in the idea that nobody "controls" blather. that, above all, it is an EXPERIMENT.

or fuck off. whatever. you're probably fun to beat up.
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srealisma oh my god. who doesn't control experiments?

and who doesn't read the "but really"?

who didn't get the memo about my goddess stature?

and who (who who) are you?
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IGG this experiment is not yours to control.

the people who do 'control' it, like dallas, are not in our faces telling us what to do.

simmer down.
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srealisma I'm not mad. Are you a rodent?

Yes, yes we do.... the amount of control can vary from person to person.

As to whether it is "mine" I do have a pretty strong case for it, unless some other newdreamers/dreamhost people want to speak up.

And it is more or less yours too.
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srealisma I'm not mad. Are you a rodent?

Yes, yes we do.... the amount of control can vary from person to person.

As to whether it is "mine" I do have a pretty strong case for it, unless some other newdreamers/dreamhost people want to speak up.

And it is more or less yours too.
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a clever disguise the kurt / courtney reference is interesting.

back then, i wanted to be the Linda to his Paul (much watered-down version of rock romance), but now i am thankful i never got that chance.

sure, when he faded away i could have played dummy and moved and had some disaster summer romance. but as i stated on another page, he was better_left_a_memory then and he still is today.

i am perfectly happy in love now, but he's an hour away calling on me to come back and play pretend with him like i did all those years ago.

sometimes the past can be lessons to your own present, even to a repeat_the_same_mistake_forever moron like me.

anyway, things are not always as transparent as they seem. even though the writing is not as obscured as the more refined arteests with prolific histories here, not all the details are plain as day.

we all have several ghosts in our past, and which ghost summons us on any particular day is hardly our choosing.

if you are so lucky that you can say goodby to your ghosts and they never return, i envy you. and if not, then i hope you'll engage them here, in this space where ghosts flourish in hiding from the outer selves we need to project.
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shock samsilearsrealismas this is srealisma.

unhinged:

one day i did pull some strings and got them to make another blather. so that's sort of like what you suggested.

i think this brings up some religious questions, about gods and immanent gods and such. in, of course, a not-quite-real kind of way.

clever disguise:

these are interesting thoughts, however i'm a little troubled by the ending. it's not usual to discuss affairs with ghosts, or even "ghosts". although I can definitely appreciate the thought and think it might be useful when there is something of importance to discuss.

when you are talking ghosts i think you are talking about something surly and extreme. hungry ghosts i can understand. ghosts, urrrmmmm....

perhaps the design has led you to believe it is a ghost-place for ghosts. hey, it's not unoften that i think i actually died that day in Mexico when i first lost it so profoundly..... so urrmmmm i can trust my ancestors. i talk to them some. the ghosts of old friends? not really. we talk, but there's no trust, really, so it's pretty much enforced loyalty. and we don't argue that much, i think it is disallowed. hmmm. if i get a ghost who is arguing with me or disrupting my reputation somehow, then they are not a ghost-friend. i just can't afford those people, at this point in my existence. that is, friends that are more unsupportive than not. hope that helps. (if we are to talk about friends and ghosts and friends again.)
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unhinged *sigh*

once again, i think this is a case of unsolicited blather advice. sorry guys; i usually don't get baited by it anymore. too many factors in my real life left me with my argumentative pants down.

all i have ever wished for blather was for us to respect each_other and my lashing out was disrespectful.


but name calling aside, i am also disgusted and offended by your need to control my actions. so you work for newdream? do you know how to write code?

maybe the control on this experiment is free_will ; the key phrase on the homepage being 'when left at your mercy' sic

i did not get the memo on your elevated stature; i gave up belief in theistic structures a long time ago. i don't get memos like that anymore.
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srealisma (new day) i'm not controlling your actions -- i merely do not desire to hear/read about the old, dead and gone boyfriends anymore.


as for newdream, no, i don't work for them.... nor for dreamhost. i believe deep down inside there was a conflict of interest as far as the people who run the actual company go.

and i had my own life to attend to but was too distracted by this thing for reasons that i don't entirely understand, and may very well be unjustifiable.


as for code, the closest i've come to writing code (besides the 1 computer science class i took when i was 18) is a Microsoft Access class i took this past fall.


i'm sorry i got pissed off about your conversation with your friend. i usually do get pissed off when people talk to friends because - I don't know why - God denies me them. I still am working out my crusade against God a la Rob but have figured out that Rob MR FREE WILL doesn't have all the answers. nor does he pretend to, really, but i'm pretty jealous that he gets to make the money and i don't so don't talk to me about MR. FREE WILL Rob.

(now THAT guy is "gateway drug" city. could be worse, though, yes, could be much worse. he will tell you himself what to think about this, i'm sure.)
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unhinged on_letting_go

walking_away now
but my last word disease
can't help but point out again
that if you don't like what we are saying/typing
no one is holding your eyeballs open

blather_is_blather
and by jumping down my shit
and judging what i have to say as somehow inferior
you are in some way attempting to tell me what to do

all i ask is to
show a little tolerance and respect
we all do shit that annoys others
for_reasons_transparent_and_opaque
this blue world is here
for whatever the fuck
any of us want to put here

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srealisma but I'm in the audience.

i don't see that there are too many options, if you truly aspire to Buddhism. (i guess perhaps i subscribe a bit to the variety cultivated in southern India, where they do tend to be a bit strict? i don't know, for i only use it, as it seems there is neither souls nor God nor fate to believe in. it can get pretty strict.)

but as far as I understand neither Chogyam Trungpa nor the Dalai Lama assert that Shambhala is some honest-to-goodness old-school Buddhism. so, honestly, you're good.

i will keep studying the lojong sayings, if you don't mind. i don't think i want you to have the last word. maybe take a picture, it lasts longer..... (ha)

it is my opinion that we have entertained them quite enough, door closer/opener/but never/ slammed shut.

(i'm listening to Strauss, and i'm getting all sing-song, sorry )(((confidential to Mudders: true story)))
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daf Ok..I didn't read this whole thing..I'll admit it. It just got too intellectually posturey debatey nerdy kids with self esteem issues who get great grades but who no one wants to hang out with-ish.

I stopped at this statement:

LEO IS STRENGTH. Bullshit.

Leo is a little baby that needs lots of affection. They thrive on it like sunshine. Leos are the ILLUSION of strength..the facade of it. Take away the affection and watch them wither.
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rhymes with ronny rest i don't know, daf...i'm as much a sucker for affection as anyone, but after being denied it for most of my life, i've grown very used to its absence. i would rather have none at all, as opposed to getting a little but learning it comes with a lot of built-in conditions.

at this point i could pretty happily spend the rest of my life not seeing or interacting with another person. that's not bitterness...just the truth. i'll take the solitude over the pain and bullshit people create any day. give me food, water, and the means to make my music, and i'm good. that's really all i need to be whole.
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unhinged hey_daf

you'd be glad to know i really don't have self_esteem issues anymore. im pretty confident in my inherent awesomeness.

but my family just went through a pretty horrible loss; funerals suck. and my corporate minimum wage job hurts my soul. and living 1700 miles away from the best man ive ever had in my life doesn't help either. so my tolerance for cunty bullshit is low to put it mildly and you know what side of the blather_is_blather arguement ive always fallen on.


hey_johnny

maybe music is your cosmic affection. kinda like mine
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daf A few more words and you might actually convince yourself, Johnny. It's hard being the Golden Grahams kid when nobody notices. (Look it up.)

Do0d, I've begun stopping the conversations when they start to get like that. I stop and ask them exactly which side of their ass I can kiss or which of their trivial, irrelevant posturing points I should agree with to get the conversation back on track.

P.S. You don't need your corporate job to survive. That's all in your head. The universe did not create you just to watch you starve. That's what human beings are for. Let go. It works. I did it. I'm still alive 10 years later, and not nearly as uncomfortable or homeless as I thought I'd be. In fact, it's gotten much better. It's scariest best decision you'll ever make in your life.

This guy sums it up pretty well. Do me a favor and take a few minutes to watch this. It might change your life.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dkpwWAg9Y8
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srealisma well, leos are the sunshine. and nobody makes you kiss their (including my) ass, that's all in your head.

start life-saving theory here:
added bonus but system destroying problem is, actually, the thing where if you contemplate the whole chart everybody has Leo somewhere or another (even if it is intercepted) so your Sun sign is kind of a vehicle (they call that ruler, but i hate that) for Leo. what makes life suck for a Leo is their Sun Sign is not another archetype.... (end life saving theory)
(start self-absorbed pitter-patter of an "infant") so as far as the sun goes (3rd house of communication) yes yes yes it's just a Leo working on the Leo part of my Leo (ok, maybe three times the Leo is going too far) & i'm still on the campaign for switching to read only.
but i really can see why people wouldn't want to invite strangers to read, which is a little ironic, but whatever.

so now i'm on the campaign to change the name so it doesn't sound like somebody is out to ruin my reputation, or to change my name. or to achieve the happy balance where none of these things matter quite so profoundly (change the design! you know, to colors. that was pretty good, from a very objective standpoint, cause at that point i really didn't think i had been in love)

the name does sound like my name. and i wasn't exactly called over through Google. so enumerating that for you is a word. so, i might add, is affectation. but i am willing to say Long Live Libra with the rest of them, as long as it can be recognized that this Libra thing isn't supposed to be on repeat, too much.

if i'm on repeat, then i must be on a crusade, is what i'm thinking, and i'm trying to figure out just what _is_ this so-called crusade i am thinking of? general peacekeeping is probably not it.... (end self-absorbed yet reasonable pitter-patter of an infant)

(begin comment on the stupendous sign of Aquarius, which is my reputation?) the astrology books are never too good to Aquarius. it seems to me that astrologers being good to Aquarius can be quite rare. (end comment on the stupendous sign of Aquarius)
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gregory van hammenstein "who doesn't control experiments?"

really? you want me to start naming the names of EVERYBODY NOT INVOLVED IN AN EXPERIMENT? this is simply a shitty question - so shitty i'm going to ignore it and proceed.

i didn't get any memo about your goddess stature, but if you have one, you can shove it up the ass of your high horse.

i am someone who refuses to take your sophistry laying down.

if you don't like what unhinged has to say, don't fucking read it. it's that simple, but you can't seem to wrap your adolescent brain around that concept. you are just as free to tell her that her writing blows (not my opinion, for the record) as i am free to tell you that you're a fucking cocksucker for saying so, or for complaining about somebody expressing themselves. it invokes a feeling of censorship, and this place, at least in my opinion, would be empty without self-expression.

but perhaps you would like the show to be all about you! well, go for it. i don't have to read your writing either, nor do i have to respond, but i will defend my blather_friend and her ability to express herself as much as i would defend my own.

"As to whether it is "mine" I do have a pretty strong case for it, unless some other newdreamers/dreamhost people want to speak up."

this. this is what i'm talking about. either this is a lie or your quote "as for newdream, no, i don't work for them.... nor for dreamhost." is a lie. you're a pathetic liar, and one who contradicted themselves almost immediately.

you don't even work at newdream, or dreamhost. unless you're sage or dallas, you should NOT have anything to do with the control of the experiment.

as far as i can tell, you haven't been here that long.

"one day i did pull some strings and got them to make another blather."

strings? them? another blather?

more lies? probably.

" i merely do not desire to hear/read about the old, dead and gone boyfriends anymore. "

then don't.

" i usually do get pissed off when people talk to friends because - I don't know why - God denies me them."

what a surprise. you're such a goddamn peach.

"but I'm in the audience. "

voluntarily. you're allowed to leave. or write your own memoirs. or go hang yourself. whatever.
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srealisma (new day) very much not a liar. "waiting" is my first blathe. i change names because my real name is somewhat impossible to live with.

nope, nope nope, i don't work there.

as long as it is open, you are free to write, and i am free to respond, of course.

why is it that you write? is it to defend a few somewhat-arguably publicly published pieces of paper.

yes? no? maybe?
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gregory van hammenstein i write to keep people like you from ruining the last bastien of free self-expression.

so you're "amy"?
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srealisma (new day) corrrect, zealot. 120126
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a clever disguise In some sense, this blathe turned out perfest because it started out with those deep, brown puppy-dog eyes and ended in complete disaster.

true_to_form.
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unhinged *giggles*


he would find this hilarious
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gregory van hammenstein though you've been here as long as i have, that doesn't make blather any more yours than it does mine.

i suppose i am a zealot. i see no problem with unwavering devotion to a site that has saved my life.
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srealisma (new day) i'm curious, who are you, then? i would love to interact again with people i knew from the past. or, perhaps you are from the original newdream team of collaborators. i didn't really know them, too much.

i still maintain i might have slight advantage, just with the timing of how it was born and everything.

i guess only Dallas might be able to say if the timing really had anything to do with me, as the girlfriend who he had to break up with because she moved away, OR if the timing had to do with compulsive creative activity which can be attributed to aliens or angels or whatever and still makes the timing seem suspicious.

for awhile there, i had to come to grips with the fact that i was in love with him even though he made me feel too small, he did have a superiority complex that was worse than mine, at the time. there was a conversational abuse and control issue in our relationship and i will always relentlessly ask why and he seems to relentlessly make it seem like he is taking the upper hand. and he is not the only person in the world that does that sort of thing, so it was vital to get that people will quite deep-seatedly seek to dominate, even when it is quite unjustified or there is no evidence or research into how it may be justified.

at any rate, i'm not cool with these angels, or aliens, or Dallas ( another way of putting this is these factors are not welcome components in my next life, if I can help it or choose it, I'm not interested in having "deals" of this sort, because it's not a "win-win" thing and that seems to be necessary. also, as smart as they are, i prefer not to work with/succumb to the synchronicity of these particular aliens, angels, whatever.)

but i am glad we have gotten to save a few lives even if mine wasn't one of them. although maybe on a strictly emotional level of doing the difficult work of deciding that life is not all peaches and cream.

i don't think unhinged has not-good writing, quite the contrary, I just wish she'd get over hateful relations with the drug addicted. and i don't blame the drug addicted.... moreso hatefulness, or what seems to me like hate from what she writes. also portraying some of the archetypes of astrology with stereotypical notions of them and then using these notions against people, like weapons. i'm just standing up against that sort of not-very-thoughtful interpersonal relating. i maintain a belief that there are no real friends here at blather, and then people did not get called to the site to be, to the extent that it even matters, my friend. that would be the "experiment" that it has turned out to be.

so it was two things coming together and these things are things i always gotta think "totally unlike" over. along with a forceful, extremely non-animal friendly (complete with extra human baggage) title to the whole thing.

yes, i am of the bent to NOT love this website, but i do like to see people progress right out of it (i feel some sort of responsibility, like it's a child or something) and if i could get it to read-only, i would. but i think the problem is that people love it too much.... so. i sure am glad i don't feel quite as compulsive about it as i used to. i don't know what that was, but i know what it felt like: and it begins with a w and ends with an r.

also, i don't think they wanted us to be labrats i think they were showing off their programming skills, but also deep down inside they were wondering about this science business. controlled experiments are actually the ones that are the most rational and, well, humanely scientific. these guys aren't doing that much, since they are all into that free-love internet geekdom. hey, i'm of the disposition to not even like google, even though i use it to search and stuff. i'd really love it if we all could have limited internet, real-lives.

and this is extra to my argument, but whatever.... my current big problem is i live too far away from the city, and highly doubt that i could get a job or a paycheck worth anything that would be allow me to.... i put on a normal act but people can tell there's something wrong with my story, so i actually need somebody who knows me to get me a job somewhere, someday and it's just that i don't know people, for whatever the reason. and it's not because i'm horrible, or anything.... so please don't contribute to any thoughts that i might be.
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unhinged so once again, its okay for you to do exactly what you are decrying and about an ex of yours who is way more likely to read what you have written?

also for the record, what i said had nothing to do with hate. i just prefer not to sugar coat things. life as you said, isn't all peaches and cream. so by scientific extrapolation neither is astrology or the person this blathe was created about or me. i really resent the fact and am offended by you saying i was hateful. towards you maybe, because i cannot tolerate stuck up people who think they have the right to control others, but otherwise hate had nothing to do with this. and if you are so knowledgable about astrology, you would know I didn't pull a realistic/hateful interpretation out of my ass. there are others. the darkside zodiac by stella hyde might be a good resource for you.

your arguement has collapsed in on itself by your own demonstrated hypocrisy and now you are just flinging shit.

i do have many friends as a result of this place. places to stay when i travel, visitors in my home, friends to go drinking with, shit even cuddles and kisses. we pour out our souls here. most of us that have feelings have affection for each other.

be responsible for your own perceptions without immature attacks on other people under the guise of your own rightness. there are obviously factors in your life making you miserable. how about you fix yourself first and then worry about inflicting your superior value judgements on the rest of us?
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gregory van hammenstein srealisma:

one of the beautiful things about this blue ocean is that i don't have to tell you who i am. and i'm not going to. you haven't earned it.

i understand more now what your point is. but here are a few things you should pay attention to:

- you talk like you're one of the blather_gods. i don't know how else to tell this to you; YOU ARE NOT. i said before, unless you're sage or dallas, YOU ARE NOT. the two of them don't need to have superiority complexes, they ARE superior. YOU ARE NOT.

- unhinged has a right to her own journey. if this is where she wants to express her frustrations and feelings pertaining to that journey, she has a right to as part of the experiment, or as a user of this site, or whatever category you want to put her in. even tourists have the right to do that here. it pains me to see her going through the same patterns over and over again too. but i hardly think telling her that i'm "tired of hearing about all the ex boyfriend drama" is the key to her well-being. lord knows i have posted about my patterns of self-destruction, and so have countless others about their own vices: alcohol, drugs, promiscuity (blather has poster children for each of these. you can probably figure out who without me telling you). if you really want to help, BE KIND and offer support, not your snooty fucking attitude. you came off like a cunt and if i were you, i would apologize profusely.
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srealisma (new day) trust me. i'm just letting you know, so you don't fall into the trap again. and: congratulations. i am glad you found true friends.

i think one of the issues is that you are imagining i have more problems than i, for one, have. most of my problems are quite physical and real.

i hope you find true equals, one day or another... and don't you dare ever say that that's not a complex matter. it is a common assumption of the ego to think that people are all the same, or on equal footing, in life. since i teach i get to experience how much they are not, and i also know that it is an extremely complex matter. i think it is safe to say you won't find a friend in me in the arts, in science, in a classroom, or, i shudder, my family, whatever it will be. please God don't let that happen, haven't i done enough for you lately?

also: i guess i can make a general request to general people. please don't elect bad politicians. i suppose that should be something we should be able to agree upon.

(apologizes profusely for the way big misunderstanding, and a curtsy for the stage)
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five spice . 120823
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unhinged ha


i wasn't gonna do it cause this page kinda makes me cringe but since blather brought it back to the recent list:

happy_birthday boodhi
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ever dumbening one of the nonexistent friends holy jesus. this blathe ranks up there. from this year, no less. wow. 120824
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REAListic optimIST Wow, this felt like accidentally walking onto a Jerry Springer set. I half expected to see melee actions typed out. 120824
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minnesota_chris some people set up a little stand saying "Punches in the face, 25 cents" 120911
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REAListic optimIST ooh, I've got $0.75!
Can I get a buy 3 get one free deal?
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