hideously_beautiful Chrity I haven't been to this site in years... I never meant to upset anyone (in reference to i_have_words). I remember the pain that was life back then - this life is painful. Since then, I have experienced many more painful things. My family was shattered when my grandma passed away, and everyone fought about her money. My Dad was murdered. The people responsible for his death were set free by a judge and jury, who said that they couldn't prove which one of the two was REALLY responsible, and the "system" failed (not that it hasn't always been a failure to some degree since it began). This life will always be painful - what is there that makes sense out of all the pain? Why continue living, if there is no purpose for the pain? Pain comes from other peoples' bad/wrong choices and decisions... (whether it is "bad" or "wrong"; "permissible", "obligatory", or "prohibited"... I suppose that depends upon which philosophical school of thought you ascribe to. I think they all mean the same thing, when you get right to it.) Free-Will is like that. But without it, we wouldn't have love, because love can't be love unless one can choose not to love. It is a hideously beautiful thing. 070308 ... Chrity I believe in Jesus. I believe that there are a lot of Christians who give Jesus a bad name - no need to name-names. Love is hideously beautiful. Love has many forms puppy love romantic love brotherly love ... but the best is unconditional love. 070308 ... Chrity What is unconditional love? After the people who murdered my dad got-off (one aquitted, the other ruled "not-guilty" by the jury - whatever that means) My mom started drinking again. She was able to hide it for years, but it got worse. One month, I don't think she went one full day without drinking. I had to stay with her all day to make sure she didn't fall and get hurt; or start cooking, forget, pass-out, and burn the house down. She needed my help to go to the bathroom.... As for the men who killed my Dad... I don't know how to forgive them. The have no idea the pain they've caused. To see them rejoice when the verdict came in made me nauseous. But God wants me to love... "But how can I love THEM," I find myself thinking. I don't even think they meant to kill him; but they did... and look at all of what has come of it! All of the evil in the world - true evil, intentional evil - it makes me wish none of this ever existed. How can love be worth all this? Can I ever understand all of what it means to love? All of what is apart from love is death; and death... I have experience with that - enough to know that I don't want any more experience with it. ... Tell me more about this love 070308 ... stephshine from what i've read you are quite clear on unconditional love. 070309 ... copypaste How can it be true that "all things work together for good ..." even in this topsy-turvy world ... "for those who love God"? Because the inward attitude of the man who loves God is so different that, without breaking any of the rules that he himself has made, God is able to bring good to that man even out of evil and pain. The man who does not love God is really in love with himself, his position, his success, his pleasure. He may be lucky or unlucky, but by no conceivable effort can he accept all that life may bring and turn it to good account. For it may bring him failure and disappointment, ill-health and loss, and "what will the robin do then, poor thing?" The man who loves God is in an unassailable position. He has surrendered his own plans to the greater permanent plan of God, the responsibility for which is God's. He asks no favours of God but he does ask for the guiding and the strength of God that, through him, God's will may be achieved. There is nothing now that can happen which cannot be turned into good for him For him all things do work together for good. 070309 ... marked . 070309 ... hsg god's plan is already constructed. the building is all ready... built. find yourself inside. remember to take off your choose first beforEntering, you see, "angels have no choice" as it has been written. 070325 ... hsg be for entering. 070325 ... English Actress hah... you live down the road from me! the drama school ! your are bloody cool... nice body too ! actress... i've got a friend.. shes a cool actress too.. check her. Francessca. chaildhood friend. i loved the one you did in Morocco umm.. whats the name umm.. i had a dream of having a child with bells like that ! Nomads - excellent. feels great to feel free. anyway i loved it... the Kinky one too... but that man ... he does stupid tricks .. and i saw a documentry on him.. didn't look so good to me. oh well we have to forgive hay. beautiful girl you are. 070325 ... lux yeah - the one problem religious idiots cant solve without attributing to faith is "why do bad things happen to good people?" get over it honey, everyone makes their own decisions. 070801 ... kuffsleeve how difficult it that? i mean if i know someone is harming someone else then it kind of effects me even if i am not directly involved. The last thing i should do is get angry but it is pretty difficult sometimes. 070801 ... epitome of incomprehensibility It is idiots, both religious and non-, who put people into neat little compartments of either "good" or "bad". As for bad things happening, yeah, everybody makes their own decisions, but there`s always things you can`t control. Gah. I sound overly didactic. Let me just say that "hideously beautiful" is a nice turn of phrase. Love can be that way... 070801 ... . like in a kind of shocking way maybe 070801 ... lux does remind me of hideous_kinky 070802 ... to lux: "how do bad things happen to good people" if: we compare a human's ideal of "good" to the idea of universal "pure good" (God) good people aren't really good people. bad things happen to bad people. and that is the only thing that happens the_big_picture is this bad going to influence 10 good results? is this bad going to in the long term affect me in a positive way in which my meager mind cannot see? 071116 ... unhinged vaguely_amazing at first glance, the_four_seals might seem hideous but i find them beautiful and comforting 071117 ... to"to lux"(any other name by which i may address y so all people are bad? ONLY god is good? and which god are you talking about? shiva? quetzlcoatl? odin? i am telling you to open up your mind a bit, or else admit to yourself and others that you hide timorously under your security blanket of false idealism and refuse to exit your sheltered cave. 080221 ... ou?) ... 080221 ... Lemon_Soda OOOOOORRRR....God forbid someone has faith in their beliefs. Yo usure have faith in yours. You supppose your the only one? Being that your so open minded, I'm sure you'll understand what I mean. 080221 ... Lemon_Soda I just reread that and it came out all wrong... Try reading " When Bad Things Happen to Good People" byHarold S. Kushner 080221 ... falling_alone blather, you. are beautiful right now. but when i wake up, can i feel the same... 080221 ... LEMON SODA RESPONDING CHECK 081110 ... Sapphire is *me The man who loves God is in an unassailable position. He has surrendered his own plans to the greater permanent plan of God, the responsibility for which is God's. He asks no favours of God but he does ask for the guiding and the strength of God that, through him, God's will may be achieved. There is nothing now that can happen which cannot be turned into good for him For him all things do work together for good. +++++++++++++++++ I NEEDED to hear this today copypaste wanna be friends? I know I am a nameless head here I am so much more than a memory but other folks are busy with cookies 101015 ... f you are very small when you separate yourself to the whole scheme of things, i really feel sorry for people like you. 101015 ... phil "to lux:" made good sense, whoever is putting him down is arrogantly stupid. 101016 ... phil Follow the code, despite not feeling rewarded. In the end, you will be rewarded. 101016 what's it to you? who go blather from