consensual_reality Lemon_Soda The theory of consensual reality states that all things considered tangible or in existence are only given this state by the mutual agreement of all partys concerned. Each human mind is capable through the excepted five senses to percieve and intake information from it's environment. This information is based on one of two sources. That which is directly percievable by the mind, and that which is described by another mind. This information, despite the source, works to define the laws of a given minds understanding of reality. Based on these experiences each mind on an individual basis is capable of solidifying and "understanding" the existence it is within. Given that reality is defined by what is percieved, and that no two minds percieve the same experience exactly the same, it follows that every mind is in fact existing within its own reality. Our minds decide how the information we recieve is to be interpreted. This would suggest that utter chaos has riegn over us because no two realities are the same. Perceptual reality alteration, or to will a thing into being, is the only tool that a mind has to attempt to enforce structure. Our current reality, or atleast the one we all except as real, is infact a mass hallucination, for lack of a better word. To truly enforce reality, more than one point of reference is necessary. A thing does not exist in this reality unless two or more minds agree that it is there. In order to change, the world requires the "existence support" of more and more poeple to reinforce the "dreamed" reality of the instigator. To this end, all things "real" were first dreams. One person invented the wheel. Everyone else thought it was a nifty idea, so they excepted it and made wheels to. Your reality is rational to you, but irrational to everyone else. The only way for any meanigful interaction between "dreams" is when they are mutually consented to universal laws. The first of these is Pupose. Though it does not exist, the human mind upon first gaining sentience required reason for it to do so in the first place. With out Purpose, the mind would have no choice but to return to chaos. The second universal law is End. Transition makes way for the fulfillment of Purpose and the garnering of new Purpose. The third universal law is Creation. It was pointless to have Purpose and End without any experience. No advancement could be made towards Purpose with nothing to work with. All minds began taking the chaos of their own perception and began weaving thoughts and mutually consenting on which thoughts should exist. Essentially telling their own dreams "yes" or "no". This in turn caused an infinite number of realities to burst into being. Realities are capable of being shared, and so, to experience all that is all a mind had to do was except the existence of others. Realities were created and all were believed to be real. However, to know all there is to know in the whole of realities is a state of fulfillment, not Purpose. Nothing could be attained because everything is already known. This led to the creation of the fourth and fifth universal laws: Ignorance and the Begining. Ignorance is required to allow advancement. By agreeing to pretend they did not know what they knew, minds were capable of making discoveries in the worlds they themselves created. However, all minds could not start at different points or the excepted reality would devolve into chaos once more. So, a mutual point of reference is designated. A reality that every mind under the influence of its own ban of knowledge could start from scratch and slowly open all the doors that were willfully closed. All minds agree on this "mutual reality" and that is were we find ourselves. The Begining. You still live within your own reality, but because the rules have been enforced by those who came before, your reality is intrinsically based on the version they leave behind. We are as a specie more than capable of "willing" any reality into physical form. You can hold up your hand and see in your mind's eye a flame, dancing on your palm and it is there, though no other mind present may consent to this. You cannot see this flame with your eyes for your eyes are a part of your body which is a vessal prepared and enforced by "mutual reality". You cannot see it take form because no other mind believes it can happen in their state of ignorance. Think on the terms "law""order" and "advancement". The mind is limitless. Yet we limit it with order. Points of reference, rules and words we all can turn to as a basis to work from. You communicate by talking. The words meanings are formed by its route definition, it's "mutually consented meaning". Gravity, pain, Heat, Cold, Tangible material, both natural and synthetic. All are aspects of order. Bound by the definitions that define them. Laws are in place because even in the ignorant state the minds know rules are required. Those laws are used to uphold societal standards of thought that directly reflects the idealized "reality" we wish to live. Advancement is the action in which purpose is fulfilled. No purpose is fulfilled simply by being. Despite the futility of the reality we have chosen, we are incapable of excepting a state of conciousness that doesn't have a point or reason. Each of us has our own reality, the more we percieve it to be correct the more we wish to influence the minds about us to agree for with agreement comes confirmation of existence("Did you see that?!?"). However, this is indeed a futile cause because all minds are pursuing this goal:complete exceptence of personnal reality by the whole of the minds. If all minds seek to be the "correct reality" than no mind may fully agree with another on the basis that all percieved realities are experienced and interpretted differently. Hence an eternal state of progression that all minds may mutually exist within. A "Consensual Reality". Unlocked Knowledges 1. We do not exist in the same reality as each other, we simply agree that we do. 2.We are only limited by the rules and laws we agree to follow. 3.We are capable of percieving anything as real, and in doing this,it is. 4.We know all things but for the sake of purpose choose not to recognize this information for what it is. 5. We innately follow the five universal laws:Purpose, End, Creation, Ignorance, and Begining. 6. Reality is the consequence of saying "yes" or "no" to "dreams". 031006 ... misstree lemon_soda, will you marry me? i'll have more of substance to add later, but i need to refrain from breaking my brain just yet so that i can have it broken by others tonite. :P meantime, one of my flavorite tim leary quotes: "'reality' is the only word in the english language that should always be used in quotes." robert_anton_wilson also took this ball and ran with it, coming to some blindingly complex and slippery conclusions (along with a lion's share of blindingly obvious but never really stated, and very intuitive but supressed, conclusions). reality is your playground, so hop on the swings and start pumping, and trust me, you *can* flip that swing over (but make sure you've got a good grip, or you'll give yourself a concoction.) 031006 ... book of eris noted. 031006 ... mon wonderful 031006 ... lc A lot of really interesting stuff in there Lemon. But I have to disagree with you on a single grand purpose. Perhaps knowing everything is the end purpose of your reality, me I'd settle for next week's lottery numbers in advance. I think the struggle for purpose; the very thing that gives us the strength to deal with all the crap life sends our way, is very much tied to the individual. The way we interpret the world around us is based on what we perceive our purpose to be. If I thought my purpose was to gain admission to a heaven like afterlife, I would view the world in the context of what was required of me to reach my goal. And hopefully I would act upon those beliefs in whatever way I saw appropriate. Love my neighbor, give puppies to orphans, whatever it takes. I am sure there are people out there who are in search of knowledge for it’s own sake. But I doubt very much that such a narrow definition can be attributed to everyone. Of course I just woke up, so I may change my mind after some coffee. 031008 ... Lemon_Soda heh. First off I'm glad you choose to post. Thank you for your words. Please allow me to correct a meaning you seem to have gleened. Knowing everything is not the single grand purpose of my reality. Should you choose to reread my piece you'll note that there IS no purpose, just the ones we make for ourselves(hence your understanding of the individuality of purpose creation). Purpose was the universal law we as sentient minds chose to inflict so that we would not devolve into chaos. Purpose is, infact, the biggest cosmic sham of them all. Should any individual actually attain the willpower to unlock the doors to the knowledge of everything, their sentience would be in a state of fulfillment(sp?). Fulfillment denies purpose. Your entire second pararaph almost completely agrees with my theory. We are in charge of our own realities and assign ourselves what we believe is a purpose. Say I believe my purpose is to hold a ruler over the highway for three days straight. I do this, my "purpose" is fulfilled. If I truly fulfilled my purpose I would nolonger have a reason to live. My goal is achieved. Its fulfillment leads to the universal law of End. With End I leave the old purpose of my choosing behind, after its fulfillment, and choose another one. As stated earlier, should I feel my purpose has been fulfilled I have no reason to continue. But this in it self is a difficult state to come to. Everyone has more than one thing their aiming for, and even if they did not the vessal(human body) imposed on us by the laws of consensual reality has built in purposes:food,breath, sex and so on. Our realities were intertwined this way for a reason. So that we WOULDN'T cease to exist. Our entire existence is dependent on NOT knowing everything. Purpose is just the reasons we make up to continue existing. 031008 ... LC Hrmm. Well I sometmes get conversations and readings mixed up, thoughts bouncing around in a random fasion. I will however in a streak of preversity stil to my postulation and insist that I know what you meant no matter how hard you try to argue the point. I am right. I must be right. Ok, maybe not. But in being wrong (or at least mistaken)I will find a way to wiggle into the light of reason. Or at least an attempt to distract while I make for the nearest exit 031008 ... Lemon_Soda LC, You rock. 031008 ... realistic optimist first off, i would like to say that i really enjoyed reading your theory lemon soda. and bouncing it around in my brain. it is very tightly drawn and stays true to itself. i am curious to know some of your influences. secondly, i would like to know your thoughts on the theory of evolution and the big bang, and what of those poor souls who are in comas, or have had brain trauma, and are not conscious? and what of time? thirdly, i'd like to grin in your general direction. provocative stuff, [insert gender specific term here] 031009 ... sans nom sir_real i have it from a close source that it is indeed possible for someone who is in a coma to be aware of the things happening around them, if not more so aware in some ways. it is amazing what i have heard. sorry i can't elaborate, but then again you were talking to lemon_soda and i was just cutting in so, ... saunters off 031009 ... realistic optimist good point, sans nom. i wasn't thinking enough when i asked these questions, which was partly why i was asking questions instead of blathing. i am letting lem's words stew a bit before i blah blah it up. 031009 ... Lemon_Soda Realistic Optimist, Thanks for the grin, very much appreciated. Some of my influences? Thats hard to say. i don't remember anything really tipping it off. I just sat down and tried very hard to figure out what would make the most sense using what I had experienced to date. The theory kind of leapt out of me. I'm sure I've read things, talked to people, seen stuff, etc that influenced it, but I'm havin' a hard time pinnin' it down. If credit were to go to anything or anyone I'd have to lay it at the feet of my friends, who unlike the rest of the consensual reality, encouraged me to live in my OWN world and share it with them as they do with me. As for your other wonderings, a few brief snippets, since I could go on longer than a person should on any of them. Big Bang: My theory would support this claim if the bang was sentience, not matter. As for the people who follow this theory, hey, that's their reality. Evolution: Just