blathes_that_are_puns_built_on_other_blathes . . 050826 ... mebbe varnishing_point or epscage_velcrochirty now you try 050826 ... neesh pary_scarallels 050827 ... neesh also varnish_this_pain 050827 ... . silly_little_pussy_pole (silly_little_pussy_poll) 050827 ... And_I_will_tell_you_how_wonder_you_are 050827 ... andru235 listerine_of_god fancypants_of_god supercake_of_god dove_of_god grasshopper_of_god butterfly_of_god penguin_of_god spider_of_god koala_of_god (lamb? what lamb?) 050827 ... andru235 better yet: dye_jung 050827 ... neesh i_have_worms 050923 ... sab collars_and_dents one of my favs 050923 ... dipperwell a_mouth_full_of_weekends a_month_full_of_weekends 050926 ... oldephebe hey dipperwell - that psuedonym wouldn't have anything to do with the character Will Sasso created for Mad TV would it? 'Cause the few things I've read by you are actually plausible projections of what could possibly percieved as really deep stuff, uh interior monologues and what not. pretty sparkling stuff actually to say the least - and the commode implication is purely incidental..really folks just chek out is_psychology_psycho ... Pay me no mind dip Incidentally, can i call you dip? I mean that isn't neccessarily any inherent social or derisive comment about your mental acuity..just read is_psychology_psycho i just keep thinking of a large Scythe like 50 feet high on a platinum/fibrous fulcrum gouging greediliy and yet relentlessly perfect into the earth. The prodigy, the horrific prodigy of engineering and commerce and the hapless child of George Bushes incompetence and sociopathic disregard. ... 050926 ... dipperwell I chose dipperwell for another reason. I don't watch television because I live at university and no one likes what I like. (They only like The OC and Desperate Housewives. And it feels lonely to watch television alone. Books aren't lonely but televisions are. So I don't know about SNL.) The way you write requires an investment on the part of the reader. They can't read the whole thing unless they consciously commit themselves going in. I rather admire you for it. 050926 ... oldephebe Well Mr.Dipperwell, Yeah well, who wants to be dragged through the grinding machine of my marginalia propogation engine - No kudos for me but thanx for the kindness. Here's the thing, I AM willing to take the journey and the investment it costs to be transported through the tendon and flesh of the rhetoric of your experience because it is more than merely the connective tissue of a kind of rote pedagological call and response through the context of the advesarial and professional and existential pugalism called *The Roccoco of The Conversational Quadrangle (actually i just made that up but...)--no not for you to get lost and infected by the unholy traffic of the Court and Commerce and Post Modern "Whimsy". In the temple of the self, out of which the communicative gold of the soul is vomited where the confession of the self is burning to be brought forth - the place where the crysalis of experience is mined, this is analagous to one of the sacrements of Faith, the where brick and mortar and will and desire and the deep unbidden call, the intermediation of the Divine and the force of spirit or Spirit - and then silence and contemplation falls upon one like the rapt flock in the pew of synagogue and church. I could of just said hey man thax and you're worth reading as well... *lacunae--broad and deep and pitiless* ... 050927 ... oldephebe Well Mr.Dipperwell, Yeah well, who wants to be dragged through the grinding machine of my marginalia propogation engine - No kudos for me but thanx for the kindness. Here's the thing, I AM willing to take the journey and the investment it costs to be transported through the tendon and flesh of the rhetoric of your experience because it is more than merely the connective tissue of a kind of rote pedagological call and response through the context of the advesarial and professional and existential pugalism called *The Roccoco of The Conversational Quadrangle (actually i just made that up but...)--no not for you to get lost and infected by the unholy traffic of the Court and Commerce and Post Modern "Whimsy". In the temple of the self, out of which the communicative gold of the soul is vomited where the confession of the self is burning to be brought forth - the place where the crysalis of experience is mined, this is analagous to one of the sacrements of Faith, the where brick and mortar and will and desire and the deep unbidden call, the intermediation of the Divine and the force of spirit or Spirit - and then silence and contemplation falls upon one like the rapt flock in the pew of synagogue and church. I could of just said hey man thax and you're worth reading as well... *lacunae--broad and deep and pitiless* ... 050927 ... dipperwell And that is Ms. Dipperwell to you, Sir. 050927 ... oldephebe Oh. My bad. 050927 ... oldephebe i probably wouldn't have made the whole commode remark then. i probably would have worded this stuff a little differently. hope you weren't offended. ... 050927 ... dipperwell That's okay. It would have been equally easy for me to project a "phoebe" into your name and render you female. At least now we are sexually compatible. 050927 ... a disinterested observer you are assuming you are both hetro. 050927 ... oldephebe Uh..yeah I'd say physiologically, we are sexually compatible. What's the deal with "disinterested person" though? I guess he or she or whatever is behind that projection just doesn't know, doesn't begin to see. Sso what do we do in blindness? We strike blindly at the ball with the bat. We see a glimmer of what we think is light, of what our sensory input tells us insight or intuition but we have not sat long enough in the stream to really know. We have missed cues and even the naked spirit pardaing right before at times in our haste. ... 050927 ... oldephebe that should be "...the naked spirit PARADING around right in front of us." ... 050927 ... dipperwell I disagree with the disinterested observer. I said sexually compatible, not sexually attracted. As in, our parts are compatible. They can produce offspring. They work together. If you are disinterested, and yet chose to say something, it is hard to not read disdain into your words... Are you angry, or what? 050928 ... oldephebe Well, I mean what is really the gestalt of human consciousness? Is it merely the receptacle? Is it merely recognition of ones consciousness regardless of the internal/external receptacle? Is human interaction only compelled by what we construct out of mores and external observation and the meaning we construction out of those observations? Is there something inately anathematic about attraction between two physiologically attractive people or emotionally canted or spiritually beautiful individuals of the same gender? Is it wrong is it right? I don't know. You're right dipperwell, your statement did not neccessarily express sexual attraction it merely said that we are physically compatable enough to pro-create from merely a biological standpoint. I was a little insulted and kind of wounded by "disinterested observers" remark because I inferred that he/she was making an ostensibly intuitive comment that could be seen to be derivative of some kind of turing device or something. Please do not be offended, I believe that the ARE three distinct consciousness' being exhibtited during the last few exchanges, I'm just saying that it was an incredibly intuitive thing to say, and one that is NOT neccessarily correct but if I were a homosexual man and you were a lesbian then the statement could have a constituent artifact in the realm of brick and mortar reality. If you are a lesbian that is cool as well. It's really none of my business. I'm straight though, but have had more than just a few flings with bi-sexual and lip stick lesbian women. Well except for the one Prof. back in the day, she wroe sensible shoes, smoked cigars and wore a whole lot of khaki. I mean I thought she was--well differently oriented and she really couldn't seem to keep away from me. It was very disturbing but I didn't want to get a low grade for the class you know? ... Am I angry? Well w/o any further elaboration, I just say NO. You didn't say anything that anyone could cause anyone to be angry with you. ... Peace ... 050928 ... oldephebe Ah no disdain whatsoever. As Dafremen is fond of noting, I as a Cancer man am kind of skittish about these kinds of discussions. ... I'm a peculiar diachotomy though. I bare my burning heart all over these pages, but if someone ascends the stone white tower and hacks at the thick cords of ivory at its door and even begins to try take the dialogue down from the narcissistically abstract to to even a suggestion of intimacy or interpersonal dialogue I just get the hell out of town--figuratively..yeah. ... 050928 ... dipperwell I am terribly familiar with the subjectivity and fluidity and pickiness of sexual attraction, but sexual compatibility is quite a simple thing. Reading you requires me to do a lot of rephrasing in my head, and just recently I was trying to coax someone into confiding in me, but he was utterly inept at doing anything but wildly philosophizing about the question, and why I had even asked it, and why I ought to answer it first, and how the wording of the question - and the semantics of - and the various inaccuracies and judgements invoked by - and I had to pointedly refuse to indulge his desperate deer-in-headlights digressions and stick to my guns, repeating firmly that he had to quit dodging and sensationalizing and just be out with it already. I am more stubborn than anyone I know, and so naturally I prevailed, and I wish I could say he felt much better after confiding, but he was only awkward and too self-conscious and embarrassed to discuss it or come to new terms about it, but if he adjusts to this sort of dogmatic and bullheaded ritual I think that in time he might even be called receptive. You can fool people with your intelligence but you aren't getting away with it, not with me, because underneath those layered discourses is a brain desperately wanting to be heard. And feelings, which are hurt, because they won't be admitted. 050928 ... oldephebe Damn. You said a mouthful. I'm just chock all out of words or possible responses. "Deer in the headlights..." How apt, how disconceringly apt. ... 050928 ... dipperwell grins 050928 ... oE But I don't quite undertand the ire. I mean. We both agree that you being a hetero-sexual female and I being a hetero-sexual male renders us physiologically compatible in engaging in *traditional human coitus - (and by traditional human coitus I am perhaps evincing a prosaic preference for coitus in the missionary position but one should not neccessarily conclude or infer that I am making any kind of overtly prurient comments or requests for such of you or anyone else)or and extending that to procreation should a defective propylacitve break or I or whomever wears one that bursts under the stress of remarkably inflamed turgidity of ones erection.) So by saying that we, by having the requistie secondary sex characteristics and the requisite sexual orientation, meet the minimum requirment for procreation this does neccessarily evince or forward any kind of indication or basis to assume that there is also emotional and or physical attraction. I take it that's what you were saying? God I feel like this is a turing test or something. What do you think of the whole flings with lesbians and bi-sexual women? What kind of psychonalytical issues does that raise? Geez. It's good to be stubborn, but why the pique? I think we essentially agree. ... 050928 ... dipperwell What? I couldn't be less piqued. ... .. What? See, this is what happens when we use too many words: the likelihood goes up that more can be misinterpreted. 050928 ... oldephebe no. i mean i wrote this before you did the whole "grin" thing. perhaps your chagrin over the disatisfactory dialogue you had with a confidant was transposed upon my receptors. possibly or maybe that chagrin was transposed, perhaps in a kind of beneath the conscious threshold kind of a way upon my rococco rhetoric. ... 050928 ... dipperwell why do we always have to fight when we're on vacation? 050928 ... . verbal diarrhoea at its runniest 050929 ... ferret sling-string_for_the_youth 050929 ... ferret or maybe.... sling_string_for_the_youth? 050929 ... yes this is it! blindfold_for_the_youth 050929 ... yes this is it! blind_fold_for_the_youth really, this time. 050929 ... neesh wired_slapping_hobbits 051122 ... oren stanorexia canorexia banorexia etal. 051122 ... oren i_will_swallow_up_your_chicken_wings 051123 ... oren i_will_blow_up_your_water_wings 051123 ... DannyH who could forget rabbits_we_remade_for_skydiving 051124 ... oren tossing_fortune_cookies 060226 ... oren two_weebles_fall_over_again 060226 ... meta meta 060226 ... narduar you're_somebody_till_nobody_loves_you 070315 what's it to you? who go blather from